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| Present |
Wg Cdr S Corbett
Sqn Ldr N Barling
Flt Lt Lemin
WO I Jones
Chf Tech I Pears
Sgt M Holmes
Sgt S Pointer
Sgt G Welton
Cpl K Tuohy
Cpl S Perham
Mr P Foster
Chf Tech M Dixon |
Chairman
Team Manager
EAWL Chairman
NFA Rep
VOYL Chairman
Match Sec/PTC Rep
STC Rep
Sponsorship/Dep Treasurer
Specimen Rep
CAL Rep
Hon Mem & Old Lag Rep
Secretary |
| Apologies |
Flt Lt R Tomala
WO T Green
MAEOp G Vongyer
FS K Allsop
Chf Tech A North
Sgt D Kiddell
Sgt I Craft
Sgt A Smith
Cpl N Clarke |
Dep Team Manager/Proj Off
WMAL Chairman
EMAL Chairman
CAL Chairman
Team Captain/SWAL Chair
PRO/Dep Capt
Trophies Rep
SCAL Chairman
Dep Match Sec |
| Absent |
Nil |
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Item
(a)
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Discussion and Decisions
(b)
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Action
(c)
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1. Introduction. |
1. The Chairman opened the meeting by welcoming all those present
and thanking them for their attendance. As this was a quiet part
of the season there had been no need for a meeting for some time,
but as the planning for the rest of the year was very much underway
it was felt that now was a good time to have the first meeting of
the year. |
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2. Minutes from Previous Meeting. |
1. The minutes were accepted as a true and accurate record of the
meeting held in the Five Alls on 15 Nov 03. |
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3. Matters Arising. |
1. The RAF Championships Team 3rd Trophy had been returned.
2. The Charity Cheque was still to be presented; the Chairman
had chased this matter, but was awaiting the availability of other
personnel.
3. The final draft of the RAFCAA (Coarse) Constitution would be
issued in the next few weeks. The Chairman encouraged all Committee
Members to read the Constitution as it contained a great deal of
information that is vital to the running of a smooth league.
4. Although the information for Command Colours had been sent
out to the Sports Board 3 months ago personnel had still not received
their Colours.
5. Decisions. It was decided that:
a. The Charity Cheque would be presented as soon as the necessary
personnel were available.
b. The draft Constitution would be issued within the next few
weeks.
c. The STC Rep would chase up the issuing of Command Colours and
pegging fees for the last Inter-Command competition.
d. All other outstanding issues would be presented as agenda items.
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5a. Chairman
5b. Chairman
5c. STC Rep
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4. RAFCAA Web Site |
1. The Chairman updated all those present on the progress that
had been made into producing a Web Site for the RAFCAA (Coarse).
A domain name had been purchased, and the building of the site was
well under way. Each Committee and Squad member would have an account
and password; what was now needed was information from Committee
members to populate the pages. Suggested areas for input were:
a. Match venues and dates.
b. Match results
c. Details of initiatives to get people interested in fishing.
d. Sales and wants.
2. The site would also contain the Contact List and Constitution,
venue details, bulletins boards and a specimen site. It is also
hoped that details of Inter-Unit matches etc would be included
along with the match paperwork and, where available, a link to
the venue sites.
3. The Chairman stressed that the site will only be as good as
the information it contains, and he urged all members to provide
as much relevant information as possible. To this end all Committee
members are to ensure that the Chairman has soft copies of information
sent via his Yahoo account within the next 3 weeks. League Chairmen
in particular were to provide soft-copy details of their committee
members and fixtures list for the forthcoming season as a minimum.
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2. All
3. League Chairmen
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5. Inter-Command and Command Inter-Unit Championships. |
1. Organisation for this event was well under way,
with the relevant paperwork being issued to League Chairmen or
their representatives
at the meeting. League Chairmen are to distribute the paperwork as
soon as possible, and everyone it to be reminded of the importance
of ensuring deadlines are kept to.
2. Accommodation at RAF Leeming
would be a problem, with no accommodation for Other Ranks.
However, there is accommodation at Linton on Ouse,
Dishforth, Ripon, Catterick and Leconfield.
3. Decision. It was
decided that:
a. League Chairmen or their representatives would distribute
paperwork as soon as possible, and remind Stations of the need
to meet the
deadline.
b. The Secretary would obtain contact details for the accommodation
offices at the units at Para 5.2 and distribute to League Chairmen
who would inform their units as appropriate.
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3a. League Chairmen
3b. Secretary
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6. Fixtures for 2004. |
1. Clubman Championship The purpose behind this
competition is to encourage those anglers who have yet to make
it into the RAF Squad,
through a small yet ‘high profile’ competition. It
was decided that to assist with travel, the match would coincide
with
the RAFCAA AGM; this would also allow Committee members to assist
with running the match. The rules would be maintained so that 3
anglers from each league would be able to fish, provided that had
never been
selected for the RAF Squad, and had not won this competition in
previous years. The RAFCAA (Coarse) would meet the costs of this
event. League
Chairmen were to instigate local procedures to select 3 anglers
from their league to qualify for the final.
2. 5 Services This event has now been given more
prominence in the match fishing calendar. The DSRA Rep had
put a great
deal of energy into publicity, including articles in MOD magazines.
This year’s event, for teams of 8, was to be held
at Woodland View on 7 Oct.
3. European Military Championships As this was an expensive event
to be involved in, and had not developed as expected, it had been
agreed at the last meeting to withdraw from this event. However,
recent evens had resulted in a reversal of this decision. The event
had now been revitalised with renewed vigour on the part of other
nations, now totalling 7. It would still require a large personal
contribution from competitors, but the RAFCAA would look into ways
of assisting with finances for those Squad members who would find
it difficult to take part. The venue for this event was in Holland,
and the advance party for the Overseas Challenge would investigate
the water. The date for this event is 21 to 26 Sep 04.
4. Eastern Region Shield The RAF had not competed in the event
last year however; they would be fielding a team for this year’s
event. The venue is the River Cam on 02 Oct 04.
5. RAF Inter Unit Championships The Match Sec had booked 300 pegs
for this event, with the Railway Inn at Lodham being chosen as
the Match HQ. The paperwork is to be issued by the first week of
July, with returns being with the Match Sec by 06 Aug 04. These
dates are to be strictly adhered to. The cost for this event would
be £13 for RAF entrants and £6 for HM&OL.
6. RAF Inter-League Due to a date clash with the European Military
Championships, this match has been moved to the 15 Sep, all other
details remain extant.
7. RAF v Old Lags Phil Foster, the HM&OL Rep has decided to
fish this match on the River Wensum at Riverside Road, Norwich
on 27 Oct. Due to the size of the venue, teams would consist
of 16 anglers. There is good access to all pegs, and the Ferryboat
Inn would be available as a match HQ.
8. Decisions It was decided that:
a. The Clubman Championship would coincide with the RAFCAA AGM.
b. A team of 8 would fish the 5 Services at Woodland View on 07
Oct.
c. The RAF would continue to participate in the European Championships.
d. The RAF would compete in the Eastern Region Shield on the River
Cam on 02 Oct.
e. The RAF Inter-unit Championships would cost £13 per RAF
and £6 per HM&OL angler, with timings for paperwork being
critical.
f. The RAF Inter-League would move to the 15 Sep.
g. The RAF v Old Lags would be fished on the River Wensum at Norwich.
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1. League Chairmen
8a. All
8b. Team Manager
8c. Team Manager
8d. Team Manager
8e. Match Sec
8f. All
8g. All
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7. Policy on League Fixtures |
1. The Chairman was concerned that there may have been instances
where venues had been selected for League matches but not formally
booked. If a bailiff had not turned up to collect the pegging fee,
then this had not always been paid. The Chairman reiterated that
the policy should be, and will remain, that all matches must be properly
booked, and that fees must be paid in advance, on the day, or as
arranged with the fishery owner. If in doubt, League Chairmen should
consult the Constitution. |
League Chairmen |
8. Committee Appointments. |
1. The only change to Committee posts was the installation of Simon
Pointer as STC Rep. The Secretary was to update the contact list
to reflect this change and enclose an updated contact list with the
minutes. |
Secretary
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9. Financial Update. |
1. The Team Manager gave an overview of the financial plan for
03/04, a copy of which is attached with the minutes. The RAFCAA (Coarse)
remains in a healthy financial condition but it must be noted that
there is a decreasing trend in financial support. The Team Manager
asked that Committee Members and League Chairmen consider initiatives
that could provide extra financial income for the RAFCAA.
2. The Chairman reminded League Chairman that, if required, money
could be made available to leagues in support of initiatives that
assisted in increasing the interest in angling in their areas,
such as coaching events.
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1. All
2. All
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10. League Chairmen Update. |
1. The Chairman asked the League Chairmen to present an update
on how their leagues were progressing.
a. CAL. The CAL had nothing to report however, the last League
match was due to take place the following day with the winning
station yet to be decided.
b. EAWL. The EAWL had undertaken its AGM, with changes made to
the league system, in future years both A and B teams would be
competing against each other.
c. EMAL. The EMAL had nothing to report.
d. SWAL. The SWAL had nothing to report.
e. WMAL. The WMAL had completed their AGM with little change.
The average number of anglers attending matches was 10. This was
low but still remained a viable number.
f. VOYL. The VOYL returned last years NATO Trophy. The Chairman
also made it known that Tex Sutton, a Squad Member, had been
detached to the Falkland Islands and would be unavailable for
the next 4 ½ months.
g. SCAL. The SCAL had no representative at the meeting
2. The Chairman thanked the League Chairman for the updates, and
reiterated the importance of the work they carry out in informing
the Committee of events in RAF angling in general. While he was
content with the league construction at the moment, numbers attending
matches would have to be carefully monitored and, if necessary,
league boundaries may have to change.
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2. League Chairmen |
11. NFA Update. |
1. Ian Jones has now taken over the role of NFA Rep. He would have
the information about the pegging for the national by the end of
the month, but believed that there would be 1200 pegs on the tidal
stretch and 600 on the non tidal.
2. The NFA Rep would be attending the Eastern Region meting on
20 Mar.
3. The Chairman thanked the NFA Rep for the work he was doing
in this area and asked that he provide the Match Secretary with
the pegging details as soon as they were confirmed.
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3. NFA Rep
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12. PRO Update. |
1. All League Chairmen were reminded that when they submit results
to the PRO he passes the information on to the Angling Times; it
is therefore imperative that he receives all results in a timely
fashion. |
League
Chairmen
PRO
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13. Sponsorship Update. |
1. The Sponsorship Rep gave a comprehensive review of the current
situation with Tek-Neek Trabucco. Despite the difficulties towards
the end of last year, the sponsorship had now improved. Tek-Neek
Trabucco are pleased to be sponsoring the RAF Team and have improved
on the discount they give on tackle. The new catalogue has been issued
and contains a great deal of first class tackle.
2. Everyone was reminded that the tackle deal is open to all fishermen
in the RAF and not just Squad members; this was to be given the
widest publicity.
3. The Sponsorship Rep stated that the work done with Trabucco
by himself, and Steve Perham had gone a long way to fostering the
good relations, he asked that Trabucco be invited to the Team Challenge
and be asked to provide a stand at the RAF Inter-Unit Championships.
He also asked that others be prepared to assist Tek-Neek Trabucco
at other events.
4. The Chairman agreed that the sponsorship deal was now going
well and that everything should be done to continue to nourish
this.
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2. All
3. Match Sec
All
4. All
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14. Specimen Update |
1. There had been no specimen fish submitted for inclusion onto
the record list. The Specimen Rep had been disappointed with the
results of the paperwork he had sent out as he had received no returns.
However, he has produced a poster which he would be distribution
to Stations via PEdOs in the hope that this would generate some interest.
He believes that there are many specimen anglers in the RAF and it
was a matter of locating them.
2. To increase interest he has decided to replace the carp angler
list with three separate lists for carp, pike and other specimen
fish. He would also like League Secretaries to provide him with
unit contacts so that he can communicate with them directly.
3. The specimen Rep is also introduced the idea a specimen fish
award. The committee considered this a good idea and the Rep has
been asked to cost this so that the Committee can consider supporting
this financially.
4. Finally he gave details of the World Carp Championships that
he would be entering again this year. This is a prestigious event
with 600 anglers taking part. It has television coverage, and was
an event he felt that the sponsors would be happy to be associated
with. In future years he would like to see an RAF Specimen Team
enter this event. The Chairman asked the Team Manager to provide
Tek-Neek Trabucco ‘T shirts’ to any RAF participants.
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1. Specimen Rep
2. League Secretaries via League Chairmen
3. Specimen Rep
4. Team Manager
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15. AOB |
1. The Chairman proposed Wg Cdr (Retd) Jim Kendall
to be accepted as an Old Lag, prior to him being put forward as
an Honorary Member.
Jim had been a stalwart of RAF coarse angling at Station, League
and Committee level for many years. This was accepted unanimously;
the Chairman would provide contact details to the HM&OL Rep.
2. The Chairman stated the RAF Challenge would be fished at Burton
Joyce on 09 Jul, with the Lord Nelson being used as match HQ. The
match would be for 72 anglers and fished between pegs 200 and 320.
The Chairman would write letters inviting the following teams:
Tek-Neek, Daiwa Trentmen, Lincs County, Old Lags, Army/Navy, Hansworth
Angling, Goldthorpe, Matchmen Supplies, Barnsley, Goldthorpe and
2 x RAF Teams.
3. Progress had been made on the presentation of Colours to Squad
Members; the Chairman would be receiving them on 26 Mar. This is
a very important aspect of being chosen to represent the RAF and
as such the Chairman would be issuing the Colours through the individual
anglers Station Commanders.
4. The Team Manager asked that a Team Managers Update be a permanent
subject for the agenda. The Team Manager had produced an update,
a copy of which is attached to the minutes, and he went over the
salient points. A 20 man squad for the 04/05 season has been chosen
from 29 applications, the new format applications forms were of
great benefit in helping to decide who would form the squad, and
these forms will be used again next year. The Team Manager has
also introduced more competitive matches to the calendar in place
of some lesser events. All in all the season promises to be an
interesting one for the squad.
5. The Team Manager asked for ideas for ways to recognise the
contribution that anglers had given to the squad in the past. Anglers
such as Tony Randall, and Andy Johnston had left the squad after
carrying out sterling work for a number of years in high profile
positions and yet once they left seemed to disappear. The Team
Manager felt it was important that contact was maintained.
6. Finally, the Team Manager mentioned the squad team building
sessions. The first had taken place at the NECs Go Fishing Show;
the next would be in Oct. This would take the format of a two-day
continental style fishing event with invitations to potential future
squad members as well as the current squad. The Team Manager would
carry out the organisation for this event.
7. The HM&OL Rep stated that the membership now numbered 65
anglers, this was a good number as most of the members are still
keen fishermen. This was demonstrated during the Old Lags Championship,
where 41 anglers took part. He asked that if anyone knows of any
HM&OL who had moved house without letting him know, they ask
the individual to make contact.
8. The HM&OL Rep also asked what had been the uptake of the
League Associate scheme, this had been running for 2 years and
yet he had only heard on one individual who had made use of the
system; could League Chairmen let him know of the uptake at the
next meeting.
9. The STC Rep wanted to propose that Mark Law be accepted as
an HM&OL, but as he now resided in the EMAL area was unsure
who would be responsible for proposing him. It was decided that
the STC Rep would forward the details to the EMAL Chairman with
a covering letter so that they could put his name forward. He
had also been in touch with Dave Hollingworth whom he considered
would
be ideal for Associate League membership. As Mr Hollinworth now
lived in the WMAL area he would pass on the details.
10. The STC Rep asked if a change could be made to the constitution,
which allows for 12 matches per year plus a Fur and Feather, as
EAWL fish 14 matches plus a Fur and Feather. The Chairman stated
that is was not the policy to restrict the number of matches and
would change the wording accordingly.
11. The CAL Rep wished to invite the RAF to a teams of 4 match
on the Aylesbury Arm of the Grand Union Canal. This was a 100-peg
match in aid of a local cancer charity and would be held on the
29 Aug. The Chairman stated that the team would be happy to accept
a place in this competition.
12. The CAL Rep asked if the RAFCAA(Coarse) had considered joining
the ACA as Corporate Members. It was decided that the financial
implications of this would be looked into
13. The Match Secretary wished for confirmation as to who would
be running the Clubman’s Championship. The Chairman confirmed
that the Match Secretary would run this event.
14. The NFA Rep asked that future meetings were not scheduled
for a Tuesday as this could, as happened on this occasion, conflict
with League matches. He also felt that if the conflict had been
with a larger league the meeting would have been rescheduled. The
Chairman agreed that the choice of date was not ideal but was the
only one available, he would ensure that where meetings did not
coincide with RAF matches Thursday would be the first choice with
Tuesdays and Wednesdays only used as a last resort.
15. Finally the Chairman sought the approval of the Committee
to send a letter of thanks to Jonathan White. Jonathan was leaving
the RAF after serving on the RAFCAA(Coarse) and the RAFCAA main
committee for many years, and the Chairman would be putting him
forward for Honorary Membership. The Committee unanimously agreed
this.
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Chairman
HM&OL Rep
Match Sec
Chairman
Chairman
Secretary
All
All
STC Rep
EMAL Chair
STC Rep
WMAL Chair
Chairman
Team Manager
Match Sec
Secretary
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16. Next meeting. |
1. Details of the next meeting would take place on the evening
of the 10 May in The Dog and Gun, Carlton Miniott after the Command
Inter-Unit Championships. |
All |
M S Dixon
Chf Tech
Secretary
Distribution:
External:
Action:
All RAFCAA Coarse Angling Sub-Committee Members
Information:
President RAFCAA
Chairman RAFCAA
Sec RAFCAA
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