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10 May 04 Minutes of Committee Meeting

Present Wg Cdr S Corbett
WO T Green
WO I Jones
FS K Allsop
MAEOp G Vongyer
Chf Tech I Pears
Sgt A Smith
Sgt M Holmes
Sgt G Welton
Cpl K Tuohy
Sgt D Kiddell
Chairman
WMAL Chairman
NFA Rep
CAL Chairman
EMAL Chairman
VOYL Chairman
SCAL Chairman
Match Sec/PTC Rep
Sponsorship/Dep Treasurer
Specimen Rep
PRO/Acting Secretary
Apologies Sqn Ldr N Barling
Flt Lt R Tomala
Flt Lt Lemin
Chf Tech M Dixon
Chf Tech A North
Sgt I Craft
Sgt S Pointer
Mr P Foster
Team Manager
Dep Team Manager/Proj Off
EAWL Chairman
Secretary
Team Captain/SWAL Chair
Trophies Rep
STC Rep
Hon Mem & Old Lag Rep
Absent Nil  
Item
(a)
Discussion and Decisions
(b)
Action
(c)
1. Introduction.
1. The Chairman opened the meeting by welcoming all those present and thanking them for their attendance.  
2. Minutes from Previous Meeting.
1. The minutes were accepted as a true and accurate record of the meeting held in the Three Horseshoes Public House on 16 Mar 04.  
3. Matters Arising.
1. The Charity Cheque was still to be presented; the Chairman had chased this matter, but was awaiting the availability of other personnel.

2. The final draft of the RAFCAA (Coarse) Constitution had now been amended with all comments received from the committee and only needed ratifying by the Sports Board and RAFCAA Chairman prior to final issue . However copies of the final draft had been distributed in the interim to provide guidance. The Chairman also handed out revised terms of reference for all committee members.

3. Although the information for 2003 PTC Colours had been sent out to the Sports Board 3 months ago personnel had still not received their Colours. 2003 STC Colours had now been received, however personnel had still not been reimbursed the pegging fees form this match.

4. The Website had now been created and would be ready for release by the end of Jun 04. The Chairman stated that any further input for the site would be welcomed but the outstanding league end of season reports and information for a specimen page were specifically required

5. Decisions. It was decided that:

a. The Charity Cheque would be presented as soon as the necessary personnel were available.

b. The Constitution would be issued within the next few weeks following ratification.

c. The PTC Rep was to chase up the issuing of Command Colours and the STC Rep was to chase up pegging fees for the last Inter-Command competition.

d. League Chairmen would send outstanding end of season reports to the Chairman for inclusion to the website.

e. Specimen Rep would provide information for inclusion to the website.


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Chairman


Chairman


PTC Rep
STC Rep


League Chairmen

Specimen Rep

4. Accounting Procedure for Service Property.

1. The Chairman informed the committee that new rules had come in to force regarding service property and that the RAFCAA property book must be updated. Some guidance was still required on the rules and this would be sought from the Executive Committee. However, the Chairman encouraged all leagues to check that any property, trophies etc, were properly insured or placed in the property book. The RAF scales x4 and weigh slings would have to go in the property book, however, individual league property, not bought with RAFCAA funds should be accounted for locally.

2. Decisions. It was decided that:

a. RAF Scales x 4 and weigh slings would be placed in the property book.


 

 

Chairman Match Sec

5. Fixtures for 2004.

1. Command Matches. It was generally considered that the 2-day format for the Command Inter Unit and Inter Command matches had been a success and should be used as the future format. However, it was considered that more thought should be put into finding a venue with good nearby accommodation. The Chairman stated that it was becoming more difficult to get accommodation in general and that when this match was booked there was in fact plentiful accommodation in the area but circumstances at nearby units had conspired against us. League Chairmen were to canvass local units for suitable accommodation for future events.

2. Clubman Championship. The purpose behind this competition is to encourage those anglers who have yet to make it into the RAF Squad, through a small yet ‘high profile’ competition. It was decided that to assist with travel, the match would coincide with the RAFCAA AGM; this would also allow Committee members to assist with running the match. The Chairman stated that the date of the event would be known by the end of May 04 . The rules would be maintained so that 3 anglers from each league would be able to fish, provided that had never been selected for the RAF Squad, and had not won this competition in previous years. The RAFCAA (Coarse) would meet the pegging costs of this event and travel authority would be permissible by attendance at the AGM. League Chairmen were to instigate local procedures to select 3 anglers from their league to qualify for the final.
3. 5 Services. This event has now been given more prominence in the match-fishing calendar. The DSRA Rep had put a great deal of energy into publicity, including articles in MOD magazines. This year’s event, for teams of 8, was to be held at Woodland View on 7 Oct.

4. European Military Championships. The event had now been revitalised with renewed vigour on the part of other nations, now totalling 7. It would still require a large personal contribution from competitors, but the RAFCAA would look into ways of assisting with finances for those Squad members who would find it difficult to take part. The date for this event is 21 to 26 Sep 04.

5. Eastern Region Shield The RAF had not competed in the event last year however; they would be fielding a team for this year’s event. The venue is the River Cam on 02 Oct 04.

6. RAF Team Challenge. The RAF Team Challenge will be fished at Burton Joyce on 09 Jul. The Match Secretary confirmed the teams that would be attending were as stated in the last minutes with DELCAC being used as reserves.

7. RAF Inter Unit Championships The Match Sec had booked 300 pegs for this event, with the Railway Inn at Lodham being chosen as the Match HQ. Following a request from the EMAL Chairman the paper work would be issued at the first available opportunity, not by the first week of July as previously agreed, with returns being with the Match Sec by 06 Aug 04. These dates are to be strictly adhered to. Following concerns that some teams may not be able to compete for operational reasons despite having paid their entry so early, the Chairman agreed that refunds might be possible in extenuating circumstances. The cost for this event would be £13 for RAF entrants and £6 for HM&OL.

8. RAF Inter-League Due to a date clash with the European Military Championships, this match has been moved to the 15 Sep, all other details remain extant. The EMAL had agreed to co-ordinate the event with the Match Sec.

9. RAF v Old Lags Phil Foster, the HM&OL Rep has selected the River Wensum at Riverside Road, Norwich on 27 Oct as the venue. Due to the size of the venue, teams would consist of 16 anglers. There is good access to all pegs, and the Ferryboat Inn would be available as a match HQ.

10. Decisions. It was decided that:

a. The Clubman Championship would coincide with the RAFCAA AGM on 19 Sep 04.

b. A team of 8 would fish the 5 Services at Woodland View on 07 Oct.

c. The Match Sec was to provide details and addresses of Team Captains for the RAF Challenge to the Chairman ASAP.

d. The RAF would continue to participate in the European Championships.

e. The RAF would compete in the Eastern Region Shield on the River Cam on 02 Oct.

f. The RAF Inter-unit Championships would cost £13 per RAF and £6 per HM&OL angler, with timings for paperwork being critical.

g. The RAF Inter-League would move to the 15 Sep.

h. The RAF v Old Lags would be fished on the River Wensum at Norwich.

League Chairmen

 


League Chairmen

 

 

 

 

 


Unit Reps

 

 


Match Sec
Chairman EMAL



Old Lags Rep
Team Manager


All


Team Manager

Team Manager

Match Sec


Team Manager


Match Sec

All

All

7. Committee Appointments.
1. The only change to Committee posts was the installation of Spike Milligan as Deputy Match Secretary for practicality purposes, as he was at the same location as the Match Sec. The Chairman expressed thanks to the outgoing Dep Match Sec. The Secretary was to update the contact list to reflect this change and enclose an updated contact list with the minutes. Secretary
8. Team Managers update.
1. Not given due to Team Manager being unavailable. The Chairman informed the meeting that the RAF Overseas Challenge (formally the NATO Championships) had been held successfully with the RAF Teams finishing second and third and the RAFs Noel Whitham winning the event individually.  
9. Financial Update.

1. The RAFCAA (Coarse) remains in a healthy financial condition but it must be noted that there is likely to be a decreasing trend in financial support in the future.

2. The Chairman reminded League Chairman that, if required, money could be made available to leagues in support of initiatives that assisted in increasing the interest in angling in their areas, such as coaching events.

 

 

League Chairman

10. League Chairmen Update.
1. The Chairman asked the League Chairmen to present an update on how their leagues were progressing.

a. CAL. The CAL had held the AGM and the end of season report had been sent to the Chairman.

b. EAWL. The EAWL had held its AGM and would forward the end of season report to the Chairman.

c. EMAL. The EMAL had held its AGM. The league had also entered a team in the Angling Times Supercup but had unfortunately been knocked out in the second round.

d. SWAL. The SWAL had nothing to report.

e. WMAL. The WMAL had completed their AGM but would need to check that the end of season report had been sent to the chairman. Some interested trainees had been found at Cosford and whilst the league would not be able to get them fishing during training they would provide them with contacts of who to contact when posted.

f. VOYL. The VOYL had held the AGM and the end of season report had been sent to the Chairman.

g. SCAL. The SCAL was waiting for anglers to return from detachments to hold an AGM. The league requested that, in order to have more involvement in team matches, they be permitted to enter a Scotland team as most units would not have enough anglers to enter a team. This was agreed to on a case-by-case basis.

2. The Chairman thanked the League Chairman for the updates, and reiterated the importance of the work they carry out in informing the Committee of events in RAF angling in general.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


League Chairman

11. NFA Update.
1. The NFA Rep confirmed that the RAF membership quota for registration with the NFA was correct and that the correct membership fee was paid.  
12. PRO Update.
1. The PRO continues to get results into the angling press although with the size of league matches on the decline it was becoming more difficult. The result from the Inter Command match would be forwarded to the Angling Times. League
Chairmen
PRO
13. Sponsorship Update.
1. Everyone was reminded that the tackle deal is open to all fishermen in the RAF and not just Squad members; this was to be given the widest publicity.

The Sponsorship Rep would actively seek new tackle catalogues from Trabucco having received several requests from league chairman. New polo shirts were also being sought for the RAF Squad.

All


Sponsorship Rep

14. Specimen Update
1. There had been two specimen fish submitted for inclusion onto the record list. The first a golden orfe caught by Steve Perham (weight not available at meeting) and the second a 5lb 3oz chub landed by Dave Precious. Both submissions required further evidence and an official claim form to be completed before ratification. The Specimen Rep also requested an updated contacts list for the committee. Secretary
15. AOB
1. The WMAL Chairman asked if the committee still intended to support the Moat Project as a charity and if the charity money previously available had been donated. There was some confusion as to whether it was agreed to support the charity with the fund raising from this year or last year. The chairman would investigate whether there was still charity money outstanding from 03/04.
The Committee was informed that some anglers were experiencing difficulties with travel authorities at unit level, although no details were forthcoming. The Chairman informed the meeting that all such difficulties should be reported to him in the first instance, but that there was clear guidance in QRs relating to RAF Sponsored sports under QR 2484. For representative matches and meetings, travel authority was provided in writing each year and copies of these authorities were distributed.
Chairman


All

16. Next meeting.
1. Details of the next meeting TBD. Secretary to inform committee when date arranged. Secretary


J KIDDELL
Sgt
For Secretary

Distribution:

All RAFCAA Coarse Angling Sub-Committee Members

Copy to:

President RAFCAA
Chairman RAFCAA
Sec RAFCAA

 

Royal Air Force Competitive Angling Association Coarse Angling Committee