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19 Jun 06Minutes of Committee Meeting

MINUTES OF THE RAFCAA (COARSE) MEETING HELD AT RAF DIGBY ON 19 JUN 06

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RAFCAA /Sec/1

10 Jul 06

Present Gp Capt S Corbett
Flt Lt R Tomala
WO I Jones
MAEOp G Vongyer
FS A Dyer
FS G Blair
Chf Tech Milligan
Chf Tech M Smith
Chf Tech G Welton
Sgt J Summerson
Sgt B Woodcock
FS M Dixon
Chairman
Team Manager
NFA Rep
EMAL Chairman
STC Rep
WMAL Chairman
Match Sec
Dep Match Sec
Sponsorship/Dep Treasurer
Trophies Rep
PTC Rep
Secretary
Apologies Wg Cdr A Johnstone
Flt Lt Johnston
WO Paul Hodges
Chf Tech G Lavis
Chf Tech Williamson
Chf Tech Smith
Sgt D Kiddell
Sgt T Sutton
Sgt Smylie
Sgt S Hutter
Sgt G Atkinson
Cpl B Jackson
Mr P Foster
Team Captain
Webmaster
CAL Chairman
VOYL Chairman
CAL Dep Rep
SCAL Chairman
Dep Team Manager
Dep Team Captain
SCAL Dep Chair
SWAL Cahirman
SWAL Dep Chairman
PRO
HM& OL Rep
     
Item
(a)
Discussion and Decisions
(b)
Action
(c)
1. Introduction.
1. The Chairman opened the meeting by welcoming all those present and thanking them for their attendance especially as it was such an early start. This meeting was particularly important at the last meeting was held as long ago as February.  
2. Minutes from Previous Meeting. 1. The minutes of the previous meeting were accepted as a true and accurate record.  
3. Matters Arising.

1. Trophies. The standardised list of for the presenting of trophies would shortly be added to the Administrative Directive.

2. Inter-Services. The RAF Team had comfortably won the Inter-Services at Larford lakes on the Army’s chosen venue, a particularly impressive result. (see Item 4.3).

3. Other matters. All other matters will be dealt with as agenda items.

4. Team Manager's Update 1. The Team Manager presented his update, which is attached. A Squad meeting was held which started with a match on the River Ancolme followed by discussions on various issues. The day was a resounding success with everyone present contributing to the discussions. On a further note, the River Ancolme should prove to be a good match venue for the future.

2. The Overseas Challenge was another resounding success. With the Navy being unable to field a team this year, a third RAF team was entered. The weather played its part with the river being unfishable; this was replaced with another lake, which would replace the canal in future years. The RAF were again very successful with the RAF Red and Blue Teams being first and second. Individually, the RAF had 5 team members in the top 6.

3. The Team had been successful in winning the Inter Services held at Larford Lakes in early June. The Chairman offered his congratulations in winning such an important event and felt it showed the strength in depth of the Squad, which could now be considered a team to be reckoned with on any venue. It was felt that the key to this success has been due, in no small part, to the willingness on the whole Squad to share information.

4. The RAF has been invited to fish the Service Championships, an event run by the Police. The invitation has been accepted with more details to follow.

 
5. Treasurers Report 1. The Treasurers Report is attached. The Treasurer went into the report in some detail, fully explaining the financial plan to those present. The Chairman agreed that RAFCAA (Coarse) is in a healthy position this is due to good management, with a lot of work being carried out behind the scenes, he wished to thank the treasurer for all the work he put into this.

2. Sgt Summerson proposed the Financial Plan, which was seconded by Chf Tech Milligan, a vote took place and the financial plan was accepted unanimously.

3. There had been a request from the SCAL to provide funding for one of their personnel to attend an angling coaching course. Whilst this was agreed in principle, it was felt that other funding routes should be considered. The Secretary was to investigate this and report at the next meeting. If this were to go forward, the RAFCAA would look at funding 1 or 2 personnel a year on the proviso that it could be demonstrated what they would be putting something back into the sport for the RAF.

Secretary

6. RAFCAA Web Site 1. The webmaster was unavailable for the meeting but had sent the Chairman a report into the work being done on the site and a summary of usage for the forum. The Chairman was pleased to note that most areas were being updated on a regular basis, and the site was fast becoming the first port of call for information on all aspects of RAF Coarse Angling. The Chairman would however appreciate it if the SCAL and VOYL could provide an update as soon as possible. Information on the site should include fixture, results and minutes of meetings; this would be best achieved by adding the webmaster to any distribution lists thereby ensuring that regular updates occurred.


All

7. RAF Championships 1. This event will take place on the 6 Sep and three sections have been booked in the Marlborough area of the Kennett and Avon Canal, with access to pegs being one of the main considerations. The football club is to be used as the match HQ and breakfast will be available, there is also a PA system in place. The RAFCAA AGM will take place after the match results. The paperwork for this event is to be issued as soon as possible and the Match Secretary was to book the venue for the AGM [note: The date of the RAFCAA AGM has now changed and so there was no longer any need to accommodate the meeting at the RAF Coarse Angling Champs] .




Match Sec

8. Remaining Fixtures 1. RAF Challenge. All that remains for this event is to agree on which teams are to be invited. It was decided that 10 teams of 6 anglers would be invited with an option to expand the match up to a total of 72 anglers. Which teams would be invited would be decided between the Chairman, Match Sec and Team Captain outside the main meeting.

2. Clubman Championships. After some discussion it was decided to hold this event the day before the RAF Championships on the ‘Town Pound’. As he knows the area, the Team Manager agreed to book the required pegs. Paperwork is to be sent out to League Chairmen as soon possible. League Chairmen are reminded that it is up to individual leagues how to select their representatives however, it should be those anglers in their leagues that have never fished for the RAF but are still of a high standard. If due to unavailability, League Chairmen have to select anglers that did not fish very well during the selection process, the Chairman is to be contacted prior to extending the invitation.

Chairman
Team Manager
Match Sec


Match Sec

League Chairmen

9. Carp Championships 1. The organisation for this event is now fully developed. The event will take place at Linear Fisheries with a maximum of 34 anglers taking part. More details can be found on the RAFCAA web site.  
10. Inter Command Festival 1. The Inter-Command Festival was undertaken successfully, although there were a few organisational glitches. The idea of a 2 day festival is a good one and all Committee Members agreed that the format was worth continuing with. However, for future events, care must be taken to ensure that the venue chosen can accommodate the numbers and pegging we require without having to split sections. Paperwork must be out as early as possible to allow personnel to plan for the event with the STC/PTC Reps choosing team members as soon as practicable so that anglers know if they are required for both days or not. Whilst the onus for organising the event is very much placed on the PTC and STC Reps, committee members were reminded that they have a duty to assist at all events. This assistance should be offered rather than personnel waiting to be asked.




All

11. Committee Appointments 1. Paul Hodges has become the new CAL Chairman. He had been in contact with the Chairman and was ensuring that those tasks that had become neglected were being carried out.

2. The VOYL were looking to appoint a new league Chairman due to the previous incumbent electing to take redundancy. Tony Randall had expressed an interest in taking on this post, and would be asked to contact the RAFCAA Chairman.

3. Steve Perham had asked if he could be considered for the post of PRO. The Committee felt that the present incumbent was doing a good job, but due to his present OOA detachment was unable to carry it out fully. It was decided that Steve Perham would be asked to take over for the period of the OOA detachment with a view to possibly acting as either a Deputy PRO or PRO for the RAF Squad on the return of the present incumbent. [Note: Cpl Perham has now been approached to take over the duty on a temporary basis but has disappointingly turned it down.]

4. A new post has been created on the Committee of Carp Team Rep. The new incumbent is Sgt Carl Hoyle (JSSU Cyprus).

 
12. League Chairmen Update 1. CAL. The CAL Chairman was unavailable to give a report, however he had contacted the Chairman and briefed him. Paul Hodges is a new incumbent and is still getting to grips with all the paperwork. He has however ensured that the Leagues entries on the web site are fully up to date.

2. EAWL. Chf Tech Welton continues as the temporary EAWL Chairman, an individual had been identified to take over the responsibility but is shortly to start an OOA deployment. This issue has been ongoing for some time and the Chairman urged prompt resolution.

3. EMAL. The EMAL is going from strength to strength; with Scampton and Cranwell joining the League, numbers are generally up. The Chairman believes that this is, in part, due to the training sessions they run prior to each match. The league had again entered a team into the AT Super Cup; this event has attracted teams of a very high standard and unfortunately the League was knocked out in the second round. RAF Cottesmore were having trouble with funding, however this could be due to the way the bid was placed. [note: The Chairman stated that he would be happy to investigate any incidence where a team thought it was being unfairly treated by the gym however, it was usually the case that when these problems were examined the problem lie with either the content of the submission or that is was placed late.]

4. SCAL. The SCAL Chairman was unavailable to give an update.

5. SWAL. The SWAL Chairman was unavailable to give an update.

6. WMAL. The WMAL was effectively down to one unit, Cosford, however, due to the numbers from this unit the Chairman still considered the league to be viable.

7. VOYL. There is, at present, no Chairman in place for the VOYL although Tony Randell had expressed an interest in taking on this post (see Item 11.3).

8. The Chairman again thanked those League Chairmen present for all their efforts in running the various leagues but expressed concern that it tended to be the same leagues that were poorly represented.

 
13. NFA Update 1. The NFA Rep had attended the AGM, which was held on cup final day. The NFA has enough funds to continue for 2 years and has sold its property in Derby to concentrate on the National Watersports Centre. The NFA would be continuing with individual membership, with the RAF having permission to nominate its 10-man team on the day of the 1st Div National. This will be authorised in writing to prevent the confusion that arose last year.


Team Manager

14. PRO Update 1. The PRO was unavailable to give an update. The Chairman reminded all those present that the PRO needs the input from the Leagues so that he can then ensue that suitable information is passed on to the appropriate publications.  
15. Sponsorship Update 1. Tek-Neek has lost the franchise for Trabucco to Masterline. There was therefore some uncertainty where this leaves the RAF. The Team Captain, who brokered the original deal, has written a letter to try to clarify the position and is awaiting a response. The Team Captain is to update the Chairman and Sponsorship Rep as required.

Team Captain

16. Specimen Update 1. The Specimen Rep was unavailable to give an update as he had just been informed of a short notice OOA detachment. He has updated the Chairman via e-mail.  
17. Old Lag Update 1. The HM & OL Rep was unavailable to give an update, he had however contacted the Chairman stating that the Old Lags had no problems or issues to discuss. There was some discussion as to when a member of the RAF can be considered for Old Lag status. In the past it has not been possible to propose someone as an Old Lag until they had left the RAF. A problem with this is that there can be a time lag between a person leaving the Service and the next meeting where they could be proposed. It was therefore decided that an individual could be nominated before they left the Service provided the authority was dated from the day they left.  
18. AOB 1. The Team Manager asked about the Charity Cheque, this has yet to be presented. The Chairman asked that he contact the British Disabled Angling Association to arrange a date and ensure that the PRO was made aware so that suitable publicity could be produced. This charity for this year would be the Families Support Group for Iraq Victims.

2. The Team Manager also asked if, as the letterhead had changed, the various templates could be produced on a CD. The Chairman stated that the next revision of the Admin Order was due to be sent out in CD format and would add the templates however, this would be after the sponsorship issue had been sorted so that the latest template could be produced.

3. The Team Manager Further reminded all those present that it was of the utmost importance that when claims were being presented that the correct travel authority was used. There had already been some problems with combined travel and he wanted to ensure that we did not jeopardise the current situation with unintentionally fraudulent claims.

4. Finally the Team Manager wanted to discuss the size of the RAF Squad. It currently stands at 20 personnel, but with the Nationals being reduced to teams of 10, was it worth reducing the Squad size to 18. After some discussion it was decided to keep the Squad size at 20, with the OOA commitment and the possible tight fixture list it was felt that a reduction in numbers could pose a few problems. [Note: This has since been revised following consultation between the Team Manager and Captain. A formal proposal recommending the way ahead would be presented at the next meeting.]

5. A problem arose during the STC Inter Unit where the individual winner, Sean Stockley, won the event. As he is in the Army there was some uncertainty as to whether he could be presented with the trophy. The Chairman examined the Administrative Instructions and it clearly stated that the trophy could only be presented to a member of the RAF. The Chairman also reminded those present of having a copy of the Administrative Directive to hand to resolve these types of difficulties as they arose.

6. The following were submitted to the committee for consideration as Old Lags Noel Whitwham, Steve Davies and Gordon Bell. All were accepted on the proviso that they are not representative until the officially leave the RAF. The League Chairmen for the area in which they live are to inform the Chairman of contact details.

The Chairman asked that all League Chairmen ensure that any civilians fishing in their league are insured and have signed the declaration. He also asked that they ensure that the H&S paperwork that can be found in the Admin Directive is included in all match paperwork.


PRO
Team Manager


Chairman


All

All


League Chairmen

Next Meeting The next meeting will be on 05 Sep 06 at 1800 hrs after the Clubman Championship. The Team Manager is asked to book a suitable venue.

All


File Copy Signed

M S Dixon
FS
Secretary

Distribution:

All RAFCAA Coarse Angling Sub-Committee Members

Copy to:

President RAFCAA
Chairman RAFCAA
Sec RAFCAA


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